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	<title>Comments on: Fight Dirty by Entrapping Splogs Using AntiLeech</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stop Plagiarism &#124; Cross Driven</title>
		<link>http://www.maxpower.ca/fight-dirty-by-entrapping-splogs-using-antileech/2006/10/05/#comment-105590</link>
		<dc:creator>Stop Plagiarism &#124; Cross Driven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you like to fight fire with fire, there is also anti-leech.  This is for bots that take your information and post it as there own on a blog.  What is it?  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you like to fight fire with fire, there is also anti-leech.  This is for bots that take your information and post it as there own on a blog.  What is it?  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: miLienzo.com &#187; Join the anti-splog vigilante brigade</title>
		<link>http://www.maxpower.ca/fight-dirty-by-entrapping-splogs-using-antileech/2006/10/05/#comment-13482</link>
		<dc:creator>miLienzo.com &#187; Join the anti-splog vigilante brigade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] MaxPower suggests fighting dirty by using AntiLeech to hand &#8216;questionable&#8217; content to the splogs - such as profanity, racial hatred, pornography. Just the kind of stuff that Google loves to ban its Adsense users from displaying. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] MaxPower suggests fighting dirty by using AntiLeech to hand &#8216;questionable&#8217; content to the splogs - such as profanity, racial hatred, pornography. Just the kind of stuff that Google loves to ban its Adsense users from displaying. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://www.maxpower.ca/fight-dirty-by-entrapping-splogs-using-antileech/2006/10/05/#comment-9853</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 04:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, yeah, did I ever mention how stupid I feel about that whole IP thing?  ;-)

Go Antileech!  It's great:
en.bitacle.org/v/445z-txl7did0/well-to-tell-you-the-truth-we-do-things-a-little-differently-here-.html
en.bitacle.org/v/446z-txl7did0/a-b-c-d-i-j-k-m-m-z-.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, yeah, did I ever mention how stupid I feel about that whole IP thing?  <img src='http://www.maxpower.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Go Antileech!  It&#8217;s great:<br />
en.bitacle.org/v/445z-txl7did0/well-to-tell-you-the-truth-we-do-things-a-little-differently-here-.html<br />
en.bitacle.org/v/446z-txl7did0/a-b-c-d-i-j-k-m-m-z-.html</p>
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		<title>By: If you could publish any message you wanted on a splog that was stealing your content, what would it be? at MaxPower</title>
		<link>http://www.maxpower.ca/fight-dirty-by-entrapping-splogs-using-antileech/2006/10/05/#comment-8356</link>
		<dc:creator>If you could publish any message you wanted on a splog that was stealing your content, what would it be? at MaxPower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Using Owen&#8217;s fantastic WordPress plugin antileech, I have successfully taken control over new posts appearing on a splog intent on copying them. Instead of getting actual post content, the splog gets a message written by me. Right now that message advocates gambling and buying firearms, two things expressly forbidden by the Adsense TOS (read Fight dirty by entrapping splogs using antiLeech). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Using Owen&#8217;s fantastic WordPress plugin antileech, I have successfully taken control over new posts appearing on a splog intent on copying them. Instead of getting actual post content, the splog gets a message written by me. Right now that message advocates gambling and buying firearms, two things expressly forbidden by the Adsense TOS (read Fight dirty by entrapping splogs using antiLeech). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Quix0r</title>
		<link>http://www.maxpower.ca/fight-dirty-by-entrapping-splogs-using-antileech/2006/10/05/#comment-7902</link>
		<dc:creator>Quix0r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 10:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there an "inoffical list" of splog user-agents? Might be good to share. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there an &#8220;inoffical list&#8221; of splog user-agents? Might be good to share. <img src='http://www.maxpower.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Matthieu</title>
		<link>http://www.maxpower.ca/fight-dirty-by-entrapping-splogs-using-antileech/2006/10/05/#comment-7873</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Matthieu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 07:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant post!

Have you heard about Numly.com? They allow you to register your works online and return a verifiable Numly Number for proof of copyright submission. To my knowledge, sploggers do not strip their Numly Numbers from their posts. This provides proof of where they picked up the original copyrighted post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant post!</p>
<p>Have you heard about Numly.com? They allow you to register your works online and return a verifiable Numly Number for proof of copyright submission. To my knowledge, sploggers do not strip their Numly Numbers from their posts. This provides proof of where they picked up the original copyrighted post.</p>
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		<title>By: Ozh</title>
		<link>http://www.maxpower.ca/fight-dirty-by-entrapping-splogs-using-antileech/2006/10/05/#comment-7866</link>
		<dc:creator>Ozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 21:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah ! wicked idea :))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah ! wicked idea :))</p>
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		<title>By: deepthought</title>
		<link>http://www.maxpower.ca/fight-dirty-by-entrapping-splogs-using-antileech/2006/10/05/#comment-7859</link>
		<dc:creator>deepthought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like http://madeforads.com/.  Check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like <a href="http://madeforads.com/"  rel="nofollow">http://madeforads.com/</a>.  Check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.maxpower.ca/fight-dirty-by-entrapping-splogs-using-antileech/2006/10/05/#comment-7855</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 10:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should setup a site like http://phishtank.com for splogs?  I've been thinking about that since they released the site, wondering why nobody has done it yet.

This way there is a central place to pull splog information and possibly responses that get them pulled from the network.

I've been working on a web crawler designed to locate splogs, fraud and phising sites.  If anyone wants to help build such a site I'd be willing to contribute the data found.  I still have work to do on the code so there's nothing to show yet.

Wayne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should setup a site like <a href="http://phishtank.com"  rel="nofollow">http://phishtank.com</a> for splogs?  I&#8217;ve been thinking about that since they released the site, wondering why nobody has done it yet.</p>
<p>This way there is a central place to pull splog information and possibly responses that get them pulled from the network.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been working on a web crawler designed to locate splogs, fraud and phising sites.  If anyone wants to help build such a site I&#8217;d be willing to contribute the data found.  I still have work to do on the code so there&#8217;s nothing to show yet.</p>
<p>Wayne</p>
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		<title>By: deepthought</title>
		<link>http://www.maxpower.ca/fight-dirty-by-entrapping-splogs-using-antileech/2006/10/05/#comment-7843</link>
		<dc:creator>deepthought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 16:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"&lt;i&gt;They sign your feed up for a FeedBurner account, then use FeedBurner to indirectly scrape your content for them.&lt;/i&gt;"

Ooooo thats dirty (and clever).  Thanks for giving the straight goods on using feedburner together with antileech.  Plagiarism Today author Jonathan Bailey was told that FeedBurner was working on methods of blocking IP's -- who knows if they will come through.  

And I agree with you that mistakes can happen regarding serving up poison content and that there needs to be some mechanism to allow people to report it.  However, if this was impossible, I would still use AntiLeech because the benifts far outweigh the potential drawbacks.

BTW AntiLeech protected this post from a splog already.  I'll post the details later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>They sign your feed up for a FeedBurner account, then use FeedBurner to indirectly scrape your content for them.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Ooooo thats dirty (and clever).  Thanks for giving the straight goods on using feedburner together with antileech.  Plagiarism Today author Jonathan Bailey was told that FeedBurner was working on methods of blocking IP&#8217;s &#8212; who knows if they will come through.  </p>
<p>And I agree with you that mistakes can happen regarding serving up poison content and that there needs to be some mechanism to allow people to report it.  However, if this was impossible, I would still use AntiLeech because the benifts far outweigh the potential drawbacks.</p>
<p>BTW AntiLeech protected this post from a splog already.  I&#8217;ll post the details later.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
		<link>http://www.maxpower.ca/fight-dirty-by-entrapping-splogs-using-antileech/2006/10/05/#comment-7841</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Feeding the wrong content to a good guy&lt;/em&gt;

A funny story.  When I first posted the plugin, I pointed at Val's site, and she was livid about her stolen content.  She wrote out complicated instructions for blocking Bitacle using methods built into the Apache server, which are less resource intensive and more thorough than my plugin.  But in the process, she included my home IP address in the list of IPs that Bitacle uses.  Why?  Because I had used her site to test her rules (with her knowledge), and she had gathered all of the IPs in her server log from the Bitacle bot, which I was impersonating.

The next day I was browsing the web at home, and found a few sites that I could no longer access.  Funny how information travels.

So, bottom line:  Yes, it's possible (although rare) that you feed the wrong content to someone you know.  Be sure they have a way to contact you and let you know about the problem.

&lt;em&gt;FeedBurner and AntiLeech&lt;/em&gt;

I'll say it explicitly: FeedBurner absolutely does harm performance of AntiLeech, even when using AntiLeech's methods to redriect to FeedBurner.  Why?

FeedBurner essentially scrapes, reformats, and republishes your content just like a splogger would, except you've (usually) asked them to.  Because of that, there is no way for AntiLeech to embed a proper image tag into the FeedBurner output for tracking bots that steal your content from FeedBurner.

If you are not using FeedBurner, I suggest that you add FeedBurner to your list of excluded user-agents, because this has now become a way that sploggers are using to circumvent your protections.  They sign your feed up for a FeedBurner account, then use FeedBurner to indirectly scrape your content for them.

FeedBurner really needs to add protections to its service for people who want to use it.  When asked via email about adding this feature, their response was not encouraging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Feeding the wrong content to a good guy</em></p>
<p>A funny story.  When I first posted the plugin, I pointed at Val&#8217;s site, and she was livid about her stolen content.  She wrote out complicated instructions for blocking Bitacle using methods built into the Apache server, which are less resource intensive and more thorough than my plugin.  But in the process, she included my home IP address in the list of IPs that Bitacle uses.  Why?  Because I had used her site to test her rules (with her knowledge), and she had gathered all of the IPs in her server log from the Bitacle bot, which I was impersonating.</p>
<p>The next day I was browsing the web at home, and found a few sites that I could no longer access.  Funny how information travels.</p>
<p>So, bottom line:  Yes, it&#8217;s possible (although rare) that you feed the wrong content to someone you know.  Be sure they have a way to contact you and let you know about the problem.</p>
<p><em>FeedBurner and AntiLeech</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll say it explicitly: FeedBurner absolutely does harm performance of AntiLeech, even when using AntiLeech&#8217;s methods to redriect to FeedBurner.  Why?</p>
<p>FeedBurner essentially scrapes, reformats, and republishes your content just like a splogger would, except you&#8217;ve (usually) asked them to.  Because of that, there is no way for AntiLeech to embed a proper image tag into the FeedBurner output for tracking bots that steal your content from FeedBurner.</p>
<p>If you are not using FeedBurner, I suggest that you add FeedBurner to your list of excluded user-agents, because this has now become a way that sploggers are using to circumvent your protections.  They sign your feed up for a FeedBurner account, then use FeedBurner to indirectly scrape your content for them.</p>
<p>FeedBurner really needs to add protections to its service for people who want to use it.  When asked via email about adding this feature, their response was not encouraging.</p>
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