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	<title>Comments on: The NoFollow Failure, NoFollow = NoBias</title>
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		<title>By: Save Money</title>
		<link>http://www.maxpower.ca/the-nofollow-failure-nofollow-nobias/2006/06/02/#comment-96944</link>
		<dc:creator>Save Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how so many of the names here are the titles or the keywords they want there site to be ranked, I of course follow lead. 
It doesn't put posters off posting. Many blogs with no comments have no indication that there no follow until you post a comment. 
Nofollow hurts the whole community. If spamming is becoming a problem then individual methods should be used against the spammers not the whole webmaster community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how so many of the names here are the titles or the keywords they want there site to be ranked, I of course follow lead.<br />
It doesn&#8217;t put posters off posting. Many blogs with no comments have no indication that there no follow until you post a comment.<br />
Nofollow hurts the whole community. If spamming is becoming a problem then individual methods should be used against the spammers not the whole webmaster community.</p>
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		<title>By: SEO</title>
		<link>http://www.maxpower.ca/the-nofollow-failure-nofollow-nobias/2006/06/02/#comment-24130</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 06:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah… those stupid wiki’s!
wonder what happen if we all use nofollow to them?

Have a good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah… those stupid wiki’s!<br />
wonder what happen if we all use nofollow to them?</p>
<p>Have a good one.</p>
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		<title>By: Deco</title>
		<link>http://www.maxpower.ca/the-nofollow-failure-nofollow-nobias/2006/06/02/#comment-23431</link>
		<dc:creator>Deco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah! Im looking for do follow websites, to get more links for my blog:
&lt;a href="http://temblog.net/religiao/o-sacramento-da-eucaristia/"&gt;O Sacramento da Eucaristia&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah! Im looking for do follow websites, to get more links for my blog:<br />
<a href="http://temblog.net/religiao/o-sacramento-da-eucaristia/" >O Sacramento da Eucaristia</a></p>
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		<title>By: medifast</title>
		<link>http://www.maxpower.ca/the-nofollow-failure-nofollow-nobias/2006/06/02/#comment-19102</link>
		<dc:creator>medifast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 19:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but if your page have high PR nofollow probably will prevent leak PR, maybe :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but if your page have high PR nofollow probably will prevent leak PR, maybe <img src='http://www.maxpower.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: fo.unta.in</title>
		<link>http://www.maxpower.ca/the-nofollow-failure-nofollow-nobias/2006/06/02/#comment-18527</link>
		<dc:creator>fo.unta.in</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 01:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is tricky. The surprising thing is, wikipedia going nofollow. makes you feel, why shd one contribute to the whole stuff.

there must be a different solution to the problem of spamming with links, nofollow is not the one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is tricky. The surprising thing is, wikipedia going nofollow. makes you feel, why shd one contribute to the whole stuff.</p>
<p>there must be a different solution to the problem of spamming with links, nofollow is not the one.</p>
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		<title>By: No NoFollow &#187; Tropical Blogging</title>
		<link>http://www.maxpower.ca/the-nofollow-failure-nofollow-nobias/2006/06/02/#comment-11844</link>
		<dc:creator>No NoFollow &#187; Tropical Blogging</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 17:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Addendum: MaxPower explores and explains the NoFollow failure in more detail. I particularly like this line: If you run a website with no comment spam, why would you discount your links? Why help Google penalize fellow bloggers? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Addendum: MaxPower explores and explains the NoFollow failure in more detail. I particularly like this line: If you run a website with no comment spam, why would you discount your links? Why help Google penalize fellow bloggers? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Leezig</title>
		<link>http://www.maxpower.ca/the-nofollow-failure-nofollow-nobias/2006/06/02/#comment-8358</link>
		<dc:creator>Leezig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm here because I'm researching best practice for my new site which will include a blog (built with MODx). After following a multitude of links to get here through the pros and cons of the nofollow issue, I think it's fair to say that I've harvested enough info about it (thanks!) to decide on adopting the no nofollow approach when I do get things live. I think with careful policing it should be possible to keep on top of any comment spam or otherwise. I agree with dsw; rewarding people for augmenting your content is quite laudable. When it comes down to it, it's always possible to insert your own nofollow for the possibly illegitimate and prune judiciously for the definately dodgy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m here because I&#8217;m researching best practice for my new site which will include a blog (built with MODx). After following a multitude of links to get here through the pros and cons of the nofollow issue, I think it&#8217;s fair to say that I&#8217;ve harvested enough info about it (thanks!) to decide on adopting the no nofollow approach when I do get things live. I think with careful policing it should be possible to keep on top of any comment spam or otherwise. I agree with dsw; rewarding people for augmenting your content is quite laudable. When it comes down to it, it&#8217;s always possible to insert your own nofollow for the possibly illegitimate and prune judiciously for the definately dodgy.</p>
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		<title>By: Standard Warfare</title>
		<link>http://www.maxpower.ca/the-nofollow-failure-nofollow-nobias/2006/06/02/#comment-7958</link>
		<dc:creator>Standard Warfare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, having no follow on comments for blog replies will put posters off posting, afterall, the main reason they post is for the link back to their page. Without anything in it for them, less chance of them replying to your blog posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, having no follow on comments for blog replies will put posters off posting, afterall, the main reason they post is for the link back to their page. Without anything in it for them, less chance of them replying to your blog posts.</p>
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		<title>By: dsw</title>
		<link>http://www.maxpower.ca/the-nofollow-failure-nofollow-nobias/2006/06/02/#comment-6169</link>
		<dc:creator>dsw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also have recently removed nofollow tag from my blog to reward my members with backlinks. They actually particapte to increase content my site. If you have comment moderation on your website, then there is no need for nofollow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have recently removed nofollow tag from my blog to reward my members with backlinks. They actually particapte to increase content my site. If you have comment moderation on your website, then there is no need for nofollow.</p>
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		<title>By: Ja</title>
		<link>http://www.maxpower.ca/the-nofollow-failure-nofollow-nobias/2006/06/02/#comment-4814</link>
		<dc:creator>Ja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 15:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have mixed feelings about the whole topic.  The linking via comments in part keeps the hierarchy of the blogamid intact.  On the other hand, comments SHOULD be made in comments sections unless you have a whole article to write about it on your own in your own blog.  Too often people make a practice out of making posts that cite original content from elsewhere and then make a small pseudo-comment about the issue.

So in some places people do rightfully deserve to have links coming back to them for good comments.  But on the upper tiers of the blogamid where people are leaving useless little notes as comments in an attempt to get a free ride on the coat tails of popular bloggers it's a different situation.

Perhaps there should be a plugin for WP that allows bloggers such as yourself to rate (only on a positive scale) blog comments you think deserve credit (even if they may be in disagreement with your thesis).  Once a visiting blogger reaches a certain level of rating points they can be featured in a blogroll-like list of regular contributors, have their no-follow links toggled off, or something to that effect.  Perhaps have it done on a per-comment basis so that you recieve links back for useful contributions in a post.  Or maybe just have something to do it manually without ratings.

As an aside, this quote struck a nerve:
&lt;blockquote&gt;then in order for you to give another blog Google juice, you have to go out of your way to link to them without nofollow, such as in your blogroll&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have yet to understand the whole blogrolling thing but mostly because a good deal of the time they seem pretty shady to me.  I'm not talking about short ones like yours or my list of "people I actually know."  I'm referring to those huuuuge blogrolls that are automated to generate traffic amongst groups of people that don't even know each other.  I see on all these blogs, gigantic blogrolls followed by banners from blogexplosion, and a ton of other traffic generating services I can't even remember the names of.  That's only the tip of the iceberg.  So how do these things get sorted out?

I don't get much traffic to my blog and I rarely get comments and yet I get incoming links from places I've never even heard of with no references to anything in my actual site but rather just some automated list in a sidebar drawing from technorati or god knows where else.  I don't care for this type of promotion.  I rather have no incoming links aside from ones based on good content that I've written.

I have rather uncompromising principles (which could be part of why I have very few visitors, lol) and I'm not about to turn off no-follow on the comments but I feel people should get credit where credit is due and I'll find alternative ways of linking to or otherwise promoting their worthy content.  Under no circumstances could I see myself taking part in a traffic-generating chain-letter-like scheme.  Then again, I'm conflicted about blogging in general since most of it I consider to be (in its current state) a poor medium for worthwhile information but I'm hoping to stick with it long enough to see things change.  In the mean time, things are going to remain tough no matter what we choose to do.  Things will remain a linkfest full of redundant content spread out amongst a small handful of topics.  People that don't play by typical blogger rules will continue to fly under the radar most of the time.

Damn the man! Jā</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have mixed feelings about the whole topic.  The linking via comments in part keeps the hierarchy of the blogamid intact.  On the other hand, comments SHOULD be made in comments sections unless you have a whole article to write about it on your own in your own blog.  Too often people make a practice out of making posts that cite original content from elsewhere and then make a small pseudo-comment about the issue.</p>
<p>So in some places people do rightfully deserve to have links coming back to them for good comments.  But on the upper tiers of the blogamid where people are leaving useless little notes as comments in an attempt to get a free ride on the coat tails of popular bloggers it&#8217;s a different situation.</p>
<p>Perhaps there should be a plugin for WP that allows bloggers such as yourself to rate (only on a positive scale) blog comments you think deserve credit (even if they may be in disagreement with your thesis).  Once a visiting blogger reaches a certain level of rating points they can be featured in a blogroll-like list of regular contributors, have their no-follow links toggled off, or something to that effect.  Perhaps have it done on a per-comment basis so that you recieve links back for useful contributions in a post.  Or maybe just have something to do it manually without ratings.</p>
<p>As an aside, this quote struck a nerve:</p>
<blockquote><p>then in order for you to give another blog Google juice, you have to go out of your way to link to them without nofollow, such as in your blogroll</p></blockquote>
<p>I have yet to understand the whole blogrolling thing but mostly because a good deal of the time they seem pretty shady to me.  I&#8217;m not talking about short ones like yours or my list of &#8220;people I actually know.&#8221;  I&#8217;m referring to those huuuuge blogrolls that are automated to generate traffic amongst groups of people that don&#8217;t even know each other.  I see on all these blogs, gigantic blogrolls followed by banners from blogexplosion, and a ton of other traffic generating services I can&#8217;t even remember the names of.  That&#8217;s only the tip of the iceberg.  So how do these things get sorted out?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get much traffic to my blog and I rarely get comments and yet I get incoming links from places I&#8217;ve never even heard of with no references to anything in my actual site but rather just some automated list in a sidebar drawing from technorati or god knows where else.  I don&#8217;t care for this type of promotion.  I rather have no incoming links aside from ones based on good content that I&#8217;ve written.</p>
<p>I have rather uncompromising principles (which could be part of why I have very few visitors, lol) and I&#8217;m not about to turn off no-follow on the comments but I feel people should get credit where credit is due and I&#8217;ll find alternative ways of linking to or otherwise promoting their worthy content.  Under no circumstances could I see myself taking part in a traffic-generating chain-letter-like scheme.  Then again, I&#8217;m conflicted about blogging in general since most of it I consider to be (in its current state) a poor medium for worthwhile information but I&#8217;m hoping to stick with it long enough to see things change.  In the mean time, things are going to remain tough no matter what we choose to do.  Things will remain a linkfest full of redundant content spread out amongst a small handful of topics.  People that don&#8217;t play by typical blogger rules will continue to fly under the radar most of the time.</p>
<p>Damn the man! Jā</p>
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